Fritz Peters - Boyhood with Gurdjieff Chapter 9
Sonntag, 31. März 2013
know thyself
Man who all 'good' or man who all 'bad' is not whole man, is one-sided. Third thing is conscience; possibility to acquire conscience is already in man when born; this possibility given - free - by Nature. But is only possibility. Real conscience can only be acquired by work, by learning to understand self first. Even your religion - western religion - have this phrase "Know thyself". This phrase most important in all religions. When begin know self already begin have possibility become genuine man. So first thing must learn is know self by this exercise, self-observation. If not do this, then will be like acorn that not become tree—fertilizer. Fertilizer which go back in ground and become possibility for future man.
Donnerstag, 28. März 2013
sayings on Jesus Christ
In any other man I should have been sceptical of most of his tales; but certainly Georgiy Ivanovich was out of the common theosophical ruck. If he really wanted to go anywhere, were it even to his mysterious monasteries in Tibet - in one of which, he said, echoing an Indian tradition, Jesus had studied! (Bechhofer Roberts - A Journey through Georgia)
Q: Was Christ a teacher with a school preparation, or was he an accidental genius? Gurdjieff: Without knowledge he could not have been what he was, nor could he have done what he did. It is known that where he was there was knowledge.
(Views from the Real World p.85)
But while for some people religion serves as guidance, for others it is only a policeman. Christ, too, was a magician, a man of Knowledge. He was not God, or rather He was God, but on a certain level. (Views from the Real World p.211)
Christ and all the others spoke of the death which can take place in life, the death of the tyrant from whom our slavery comes, that death which is a necessary condition of the first and principal liberation of man. (Views from the Real World p.238)
He said that Jesus knew his own nonentityness and should he return, he would be very angry that people thought he had said he was God.
(Gurdjieff and the Women of the Rope p.179)
Let us suppose Jesus Christ to be man number eight. (ISOM Chapter 16)
The Last Supper was a magical ceremony similar to 'blood-brotherhood' for establishing a connection between 'astral bodies.' But who is there who knows about this in existing religions and who understands what it means? All this has been long forgotten and everything has been given quite a different meaning. The words have remained but their meaning has long been lost. (ISOM Chapter 5)
There is nothing new in the idea of sleep. People have been told almost since the creation of the world that they are asleep and that they must awaken. How many times is this said in the Gospels, for instance? 'Awake,' 'watch,' 'sleep not.' Christ's disciples even slept when he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane for the last time. (ISOM Chapter 8)
see also the detailed description in Beelzebubs Tales (Chapter on Religion)
Q: Was Christ a teacher with a school preparation, or was he an accidental genius? Gurdjieff: Without knowledge he could not have been what he was, nor could he have done what he did. It is known that where he was there was knowledge.
(Views from the Real World p.85)
But while for some people religion serves as guidance, for others it is only a policeman. Christ, too, was a magician, a man of Knowledge. He was not God, or rather He was God, but on a certain level. (Views from the Real World p.211)
Christ and all the others spoke of the death which can take place in life, the death of the tyrant from whom our slavery comes, that death which is a necessary condition of the first and principal liberation of man. (Views from the Real World p.238)
He said that Jesus knew his own nonentityness and should he return, he would be very angry that people thought he had said he was God.
(Gurdjieff and the Women of the Rope p.179)
Let us suppose Jesus Christ to be man number eight. (ISOM Chapter 16)
The Last Supper was a magical ceremony similar to 'blood-brotherhood' for establishing a connection between 'astral bodies.' But who is there who knows about this in existing religions and who understands what it means? All this has been long forgotten and everything has been given quite a different meaning. The words have remained but their meaning has long been lost. (ISOM Chapter 5)
There is nothing new in the idea of sleep. People have been told almost since the creation of the world that they are asleep and that they must awaken. How many times is this said in the Gospels, for instance? 'Awake,' 'watch,' 'sleep not.' Christ's disciples even slept when he was praying in the Garden of Gethsemane for the last time. (ISOM Chapter 8)
see also the detailed description in Beelzebubs Tales (Chapter on Religion)
Samstag, 23. März 2013
my bible is quite another thing
What you learn from bible you wish believe, but your bible is one thing and my bible is quite another. Nobody now believe in Christian thing, not with inner world, especially young ones. Nobody but English old maid and your American Lesbians. In General, man over there not believe. Your bible is hodgepodge.
Gurdjieff and the Women of the Rope p.156
Gurdjieff and the Women of the Rope p.156
Montag, 18. März 2013
perhaps will understand better
Nott: What about people who have never met you, or will never meet you? How will they be able to understand Beelzebub's Tales?
Gurdjieff: Perhaps will understand better than many always around me. You, by the way, you see much of me and become identified with me. I not wish people identified with me, I wish them identified with my ideas. Many who never will meet me, simple people, will understand my book. Time come perhaps when they read Beelzebub's Tales in Churches.
Gurdjieff: Perhaps will understand better than many always around me. You, by the way, you see much of me and become identified with me. I not wish people identified with me, I wish them identified with my ideas. Many who never will meet me, simple people, will understand my book. Time come perhaps when they read Beelzebub's Tales in Churches.
C.S. Nott - Further Teachings of Gurdjieff p.77
Sonntag, 17. März 2013
discovery of Gurdjieffs true nature
Julia O. Ostrowska |
One day she confided to us, with a certain smile, how moved she was to discover her husband’s true nature, and to realize that he was totally devoted to work of a spiritual order and dedicated to the good of his fellow man. In his quiet strength she had until then appreciated him above all as an affectionate companion, a benevolent protector, and the hoped-for father of their children.
She saw him in a new light when she realized that her husband was revered by those around him as an exceptional teacher and as an authentic master of wisdom, with the power to help his pupils discover their true spiritual potential. She then took a discreet place beside him, careful not to hinder in any way the work he had to accomplish.
Gurdjieff a Master in Life p.227
Mittwoch, 13. März 2013
Western Section in Tiflis 1919
Alexander de Salzmann´s cover design for the prospectus of the Institute for the Harmonious Developement of Man.
At the bottom in Russian language : Western Section!
This bottom part is removed in the later versions in english, french and german.
At the bottom in Russian language : Western Section!
This bottom part is removed in the later versions in english, french and german.
Montag, 11. März 2013
I wish for Immortality
Olgivanna Lazovic |
‘He did show me,’ she added. ‘He showed me how to do ordinary housework, not as a servant would do it, but to work and at the same time use his method.’
Like all the women who really worked with Gurdjieff, she was remarkable and unusual; she possessed an inner something, she had individuality, and she could turn her hand to anything.
C.S. Nott - Teachings of Gurdjieff p.84
Donnerstag, 7. März 2013
a Guide to the eternal Mysteries of the Universe
He was still surrounded by this strange entourage of philosophers, doctors, poets, and dancers. He was not exploiting them; on the contrary, several of them were living on his diminishing means. And by them all he was esteemed, almost worshipped, as a guide to the eternal mysteries of the universe. His admirers were by no means fools; some of them were distinguished men, and these especially insisted that Georgiy Ivanovich, as they called him in Russian fashion, had taught them more about their particular art than they had ever learned before. He had peculiar notions about music; others about the ballet; more still about medicine and philosophy; all of which, he said, were based upon secret mathematical mysteries in which he had been instructed in the remote hills of Central Asia!
C. E. Bechhofer Roberts - A Journey Through Georgia
Montag, 4. März 2013
the first Sign of the Awakening
The realization of the fact that he has no aim and that he is not going anywhere is the first sign of the approaching awakening of a man or of awakening becoming really possible for him. Awakening begins when a man realizes that he is going nowhere and does not know where to go.
In Search Of The Miraculous Chapter 8
Sonntag, 3. März 2013
how to be One of the Elite
“Everyone,” he said, “knows something. Each of us has learned to do something mechanically.” He insisted on this word. “Two people have the same worth when each stays within his own speciality. However, if one can also do what the other does, then he is superior. He who aspires to be one of the elite must be capable not only of doing what he does habitually, but also of doing anything that those he regards inferior can do, even if not with the competence of a professional.”
Gurdjieff, a Master in Life p.92
Samstag, 2. März 2013
we both are His
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